Friday, October 29, 2010

Why did Bernie Madoff go to prison?

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Why did Bernie Madoff go to prison? To make it simple, he talked people into investing with him. Trouble was, he didn't invest their money.  As time rolled on he simply took the money from the new investors to pay off the old investors.  Finally there were too many old investors and not enough money from new investors coming in to keep the payments going. 

Next thing you know Madoff is one of the most hated men in  America  and he is off to jail.  Some of you know this. but not enough of you.  

 Madoff did to his investors what the government has been doing to us for over 70 years with Social Security.  There is no meaningful difference between the two schemes, except that one was operated by a private individual who is now in jail, and the other is operated by politicians who enjoy perks, privileges and status in spite of their actions.

Do you need a side-by-side comparison here?  Here's a nifty little chart.
 
BERNIE MADOFF
SOCIAL SECURITY
Takes money from investors with the promise that the money will be invested and made available to them later.
Takes money from wage earners with the promise that the money will be invested in a "Trust Fund" and made available later.
Instead of investing the money Madoff spends it on nice homes in the Hamptons and yachts.
Instead of depositing money in a Trust Fund the politicians use it for general spending and vote buying.
When the time comes to pay the investors back Madoff simply uses some of the new funds from newer investors to pay back the older investors.
When benefits for older investors become due the politicians pay them with money taken from younger and newer wage earners to pay the geezers.
When Madoff's scheme is discovered all hell breaks loose. New investors won't give him any more cash.
When Social Security runs out of money they simply force the taxpayers to send them some more.
Bernie Madoff is in jail.
Politicians remain in  Washington...

"The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal government but doesn't have to take the civil service examination." __ Ronald Reagan

"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years there’d be a shortage of sand.” __ Milton Friedman

5 Comments:

At 4:53 PM, Blogger Bail Agent said...

Yes the Ponzi scheme is very much like Social Security. At the rate we're heading, they'll have to raise my retirement age to 117 before I can collect. I wonder if Madoff had the chance to pay off the investors by just telling them to wait 75 years, would he still be in jail? I'm only being half-sarcastic now that I think about it.


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At 3:34 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

Hello San Diego REIA, my name is Gregory Kreimer, and i am a member of LI REIA in NY.
i justed wanted to ALERT San Diego REIA members of the 'Sharks' investors Omar Navarrete and Joey Soriano that may be swimming by and asking you to invest with them.
they will lie to you so well that you will believe them! BEWARE!
they are like Bernie Madoff except they weren't caught yet but they will be! Him and his partner scamed me and my wife out of $75K.

i consider myself a 'NewBE' (as i was called) RE investor from Long Island, NY and recently joined LI REIA here.

I am also Equity Trust Company member for few years now and wanted to do private lending instead of rehabing using mine and wife's IRA. (thats where i learned about REIA).

i went to few RE boot camps thru Equity Trust Company University ( Robyn Thompson-'queen of rehab' bootcamp and Larry Harbolt (Larry runs St. Petersburg, Fl. REIA) and Curtis Brooks bootcamp). thats where i learned things and realised i got into a bad deal with an investor who was dealing in bad faith.

I wanted to alert you and your members of the Dishonest and Bad Faith investor/rehaber that may or not be a member of this San Diego REIA. Him and his partner scamed me and wife out of $75K.

pl let me know if you can help with below situation i m in.
I met Omar Navarrete, from Chula Vista,Ca in person and his partner Joey Soriano ( thru email) both from Synergy Professional Ts LLC (3435 Camino Del Rio south #203, San Diego, CA 92108) at Equity Trust Company self directed IRA investor's conference in Orlando,Fl past September, 2010.
There, Omar solicited me to invest and fund $75K at 20% for 60 days (it became 90)into 2nd position on a property he was rehabing in November,2010 at 467 Tesota Ct, Chula Vista. i did.

Omar and Joey managed to get somebody from Ca into 3d position for $48K. First loan is at $171,200. Total loans are at $294k. ARV is aprox $265k.

Omar and partner defaulted on all loans in February, 2011 and are walking away from the property and commitments.

They never intended to sell it and are renting the house instead of selling it as promised while in Foreclosure. The property is going to Foreclosure Trustee Sale in early to mid summer.

pl email me on gkreimer@gmail.com

 
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